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vA ae < FD-302a (Rev. 11-15-83) WMFO 58A-WF-200802 Continuation of FD-3020f ABNER J. MIKVA ,On 9/27/95 Page 2 MIKVA stated that it was his opinion that the White House Counsel’s Office needed to advise these individuals that they needed to divest themselves of certain stocks immediately. The financial disclosure reports showed these stocks were still part of their respective portfolios. Judge MIKVA advised that he spoke with both officials in separate discussions about the failure to divest. "TJ went to see TONY LAKE and explained this was a matter of great concern to us, and he said he thought it had all been done." MIKVA revealed that LAKE had recalled signing the various documents to include the actual certificate of divestiture and LAKE apparently thought that the divestiture had occurred. Judge MIKVA explained that he believed this was a situation that "had simply fallen through the cracks." Concerning the issue of exercising options, MIKVA stated "r didn’t catch that, I’m not sure that options had been exercised." Judge MIKVA stated that he advised LAKE, that LAKE had to do whatever was necessary to correct this matter, so there would be no embarrassment to either him or to the President. At this point, advised that Dr. LAKE is re not going to take advantage of his certificate of divestiture. Judge MIKVA was not aware if Dr. LAKE prepared his own financial disclosure forms or if LAKE has someone else do it. Judge MIKVA advised that it was his mission at the time to advise TONY LAKE and SAM BERGER to divest as quickly as possible. LAKE was startled and surprised that divestiture had b6 not occurred. Judge MIKVA indicated that like Dr. LAKE, BERGER’s bic holdings were diverse and BERGER ‘knew he had been told he had to divest. MIKVA stated he told both offici j questions, they could contact either Judge MIKVA added that BERGER thought that he w compliance. BERGER informed MIKVA he had asked whether BERGER holdings were attributable to him, and informe hat they were not. BERGER therefore thought he was in full compliance_with the ethics requirements. According to MIKVA however, __Jclaims that he told BERGER in early 1994 these holdings were attributable to BERGER. MIKVA stated that it was his belief that "there was no mens rea or criminal intent."