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FD-302a (Rev. 10-6-95) 44A-TP-74471 Continuation of FD-302 of FIVE MEDIA INTERVIEWS On 4/23/12 Page O'DONNELL:JOE, JOE, you knOw what? JOE, OLIVER: Can I ask you why it's his gut, a gut feeling? And why I feel good about it? Because it's an instinctual thing. O'DONNELL: Okay. OLIVER: And it's also because I've had what I have been told validated. What you have heard so far that has been leaked has been val, was val, is validating what I've been told. There's other information that is yet to come 'umop ssed o? Aanr puean ayn yoy Buganem ax,om yeya ano Okay? And when that comes down, then it's a question of whether or not anybody else believes what the investigation turns out. O'DONNELL: Okay. OLIVER: You know, we welcome, we welcome the State's Attorney looking into this. We welcome the Grand Jury. We welcome the Justice Department. We welcome all of this because first of all, this was not a racial incident and we welcome all of this because we know that if we weren't sitting here talking about GEORGE shooting TRAYvON, we'd be talking about TRAYVON shooting GEORGE. O'DoNNELL:Hey, JOE, Joe, uh, we're gonna get to that in a minute. The detail of that in a minute. I just want to explain to the audience that we've lost a little bit of light in your studio and so the image looks a little different here. I, I want to get to something that's been very important to a lot of people who saw you on HARDBALL yesterday and I want to play a little clip of you there. Talking about this controversial elements of the 911 tapes in which people think they hear a racial slur and for you now it seems to come down to a distinction of one letter, is it a c or is it a g? Uh, is it goon or is it the c word that, that goes with that and I just want to listen to what you told ChRis mATHews about that and we'll try to get your light back while we're playing that tape, so let's just listen to this. (Playing tape)