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SECRET 10 b1 KAK:rs KAPLAN: (Cont.) South Africa and the representative of all the blacks in the United States. GUNDANG: Right. There hasn't been an election, he hasn't been uh elected and uh I think in the end the polls will decide like how the polls decided in Namibia. KAPLAN: I admire him for what he suffered, I admire him for what he is, and I can't help thinking that he is a tired old man and that sooner or later he will disappear entirely and younger people will have to take over in order to carry the black man's UNT they exist.. GUNDANG: Right. KAPLAN: Thank you so very much that you gave me your time again and. unlike last time we can proclaim loudly and clearly that today when we tape this program it's the first of July and when I play it on the air which also today is Sunday the 8th. But this Sunday UNT. GUNDANG: Right. KAPLAN: Shall we call upon you again. Thank you ConsuI RAFIK GUNDANG. Till next week, this is RALPH KAPLAN. SECRET