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To: Counterterrorism From:. Berlin Re: 315N-wF-227135, 12/05/2003 The Chief Judge then asked whether he had understood Fromm correctly, in that they only wanted to go to Afghanistan and not to Chechnya via Afghanistan.. Fromm answered that this was correct. They had traveled training there in less than one year. This, according to Fromm, was their goal for traveling to Afghanistan.. It was the Bfv's conclusion that they were recruited in Afghanistan as a result of their English language .abilities, and their familiarity with Western countries. This conclusion was based 'Agg dyn on dnqegneae uonneunogut oo dadanos .uado uodn were planned by Ksm. Those who had arrived in Afghanistan from Germany simply became the means to execute the plan. They were asked to volunteer for this plan.. entire plan had been conceived by Binalshibh and Ksm. Fromm testified that this was correct. The Chief Judge told Fromm that Motassadeq had claimed this same allegation. The Chief Judge noted that the Hanseatic Higher Regional Court in Hamburg had recently convicted Mounir El Motassadeq (hereinafter "Motassadeq") under a prosecutorial theory similar to the one now presented before the Mzoudi trial court. He fifteen (15) years in prison. The Chief Judge rhetorically asked Fromm that if his interpretation of the facts was accurate, then should not the court have declared Motassadeq innocent and released him? true and accurate. Chief Judge Ruhle asked whether the Bfv had any of its own sources upon which the Bfv was basing its conclusions. Fromm answered that there were none in that regard. The Chief Judge then asked whether there was a person who could corroborate that the Hamburg Group was recruited for the. September 1lth attacks in Afghanistan.. information available.. For example, page 30 of the U.s..