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PAGE TWO b6 IN THE PRESENCE OF ATTORNEY VOLUNTARILY STATED AT b7C A MEETING APPROXIMATELY TWO MONTHS PRIOR TO JUNE ELEVEN, LAST, OF ALL THE INDIANS ON ALCATRAZ ISLAND, THEY DISCUSSED THE POSSIBILITY OF SELLING COPPER FROM THE ISLAND TO SUPPORT THEMSELVES AND ALSO THE POSSIBILITY THAT IF THEY DECIDED TO DO THIS, CHARGES MIGHT POSSIBLY BE BROUGHT AGAINST THEM FOR THEFT OF GOVERNMENT PROPERTY. HE ADVISED THEY DISCUSSED THIS AND THEN VOTED ON IT, AT WHICH TIME HE VOTED YES, INDICATING HE WAS FOR SELLING THE COPPER BUT HE ADVISED THEY DID NOT COMPLETE THE DISCUSSION AT THIS TIME AND IT WAS PUT OVER TO A LATER MEETING. HE STATED SIXTY OR SEVENTY PEOPLE WERE PRESENT ON THE ISLAND AT THE MEETING AT THAT TIME. HE ADVISED THERE WAS A SUBSEQUENT MEETING AT WHICH HE WAS NOT PRESENT, WHEREBY THEY AGREED COPPER TAKEN FROM THE ISLAND SHOULD BE SOLD AT SAN FRANCISCO TO SUPPORT THE GROUP REMAINING ON ALCATRAZ. END PAGE TWO