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August 19, 1947
arded herein, DAH R N deny, however, that they actually started
fly. dise story and their actual part in the story, United Airlines pilot,
E ¥3 tates that DAHL-and CRISMAN on July 31, 1947, both related their
original flying dise fragment’ story. Information gathered would indicate that
the anonymous phone calls were possibly made by. FRED CRISMAN in order to build
up the flyi dise story to the point where they could make a profitable sale
of the story to RAY PALMER, Chicago, Illinois, No facts have been developed
which would definitely prove that CRISMAN made these calls. However, from all
facts and information gathered, it appears he is probably the most likely to
have made the anonymous calls. The detailed interviews of the persons contac-
ted in regard to this flying disc story are being set out below,
The following investigation was conducted by Special Agent
MacCULLOCH at Tacoma, Washington on August 6, 7, 1947:
EI SEL, Associated Press “ireman, Tacoma, Washington,
ised that in the arty part: of June, 1947 he was' requested by the Seattle
Intelligencer to check on a story which he was informed had been obtained
from the Fire Chief at Harper, Washington. The story was supposed to have
originated with FRED CRISMAN. Mr. VOGEL stated that the story was to the effect
that DAHL, while patrolling in his boat near Maury Island, saw five or six
flying dises, one of which fluttered toward’ the ground and finally disintegrated,
Fragments of the disc were reported to have showered down on the boat of HAROLD
DAHL, causing some ge and killing his dog. Mr. VOGEL stated that he went
to the home of HAROLD BAHL. on 3903 North Gove, Tacoma, Washington to check with
him on this fly: ing disc story. He stated that as best he could recall, this
was just a few days after the first flying disc stories had appeared in the paper
and was on a Sunday evening. He believed it was the early part of June. He
stated that DAHL took him in the kitchen and proceeded to talk about this flying
disc story in low muffled tones. He stated that DAHL acted rather suspicious
and that shortly his wife came into the kitchen and was in a considerable rage,
telling DAHL to admit that the entire story was a plain fantasy which he had
dreamed up. He stated that after his wife told DAHL to admit the entire story
was false, that DAHL then admitted that there was nothing whatever to the story
and it was an entire hoax. VOGEL stated that in view ef the enraged condition
of DAHL's.wife, he erie left and reported to tne\eeatele Post Intelligencer
that. the entire story was a hoax and that they. should rint it in any way,
He further ‘stated. that he gavised the Seattle Post Intelligencer that DAHL was
a mental case and that nothing which he had reported should be carried as far
as a news story. OGEL stated that since that time he had received repeated
requests from the Boise Statesman requesting information as to the flying disc
stories reportedly ori ati Wi RED CRISMAN and HAROLD DAHL. VOGEL stated
that he had never, in e g pressure brought upon him to
release: a news’ story and that t ep ivised the Boise Statesman that
the story of seeing the flying iL and CRISMAN was a complete fabri-
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