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own idea, 1 feck FT would, Phitby: ~“No, it fs my? [exe to do whatever I can pei s 9 Rot these pe a [Perhaps two for one seems # bad bargain in the West, but we will just have to face the fact that the Western side always comics out Worst in this type of exchange, for the simple reason that we have more, and better agents than you have. We get Colonel Abcl, a first-class man, for Garry Powers, who was only a pilot, for the simple reason . : ! that you have no one as good i i | | over here for us to catch.” . Himself: “1 love life, women : and childzen, food and drink, 1 ~ love all that and I want other + penple to be able, to enjoy itt all to the full, too" said Philby, J askeid him how he felt about loaw’ 2 his own family." E pose Tam realiy two people e said. “1 am @ private per- son and a political person. Of course, if there ts @ conflict, the jee person comes first.” I : 1 said this sounded one of the bleakest, sadd bh hings I had [heard anyone say for a long time. He shrugged his shoulders. i T asked how he reacicd to the + charge that he was ® ‘raitor. ."To betray, you must first belong” he said. “I never he: Jonged. Yhave followed exactly “the same line the whole of my adult life. The’ fight apnine: fascism and the fight against imperialism were, fundament- aily, the same Aight.” r Daniel and Sinyavsl T completely against it, I thought the whole thing was a” rearel- “table reversion to the ofd spirit. . OF course, they were guilty as * charged, smuggling their criticism of the Soviet @ cred to be published. They should have got a week in jail, or perhaps a public censure from their colleagues in the Writers’ Union. What's the point of sending them to & fabour camp? But you nave te make some allowances for what these Russians have been through at the hands of foreign ‘jnvaders—they're sensitive on the area of their own people j involved with get foreighers. You can understand even if you don't agree. The old spirit survives here and }there, but you'll have to admit these’ sentences were against the whole direction things have een taking here.” His book. “My book Js about 80,000 words tong. No more than eight pages are political, in the sense of discussing the merits of Communism. course, many yodng people’ became oi xin the early "thirties: case is why I remained one, and saw it throush to the end. through the Stalin period and everything else. 1 make my positi clear on these matters. The main part of my book is an account of my work with the SIS, CIA and FBI in my years in the West. I name the colleagues 1 was involved with, but not in an unkindly way, I hope: just setting down ine nk the truth should come out.” «LU gaid, “Your superiors must think this publication will help the Soviet side” Philby: “ Of wcourse: I am a serving officer ‘of the KGB. Naturally, I say nothing about, my work for the KGB in my book. and my his- tory becomes rather general after shout 1955—I have to think about protecting our own operations after that date.” the question, in my enna EnUnInanoe nents ——