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1 em ue aptorvigued o 196: i 25 : Pe ° whe oeune....... .. has bona in ienate®. (96: . of this fastitution for a umber of yeare and was peeviously 70. confined to Alcatraz, He stated that ia the pest years no 0S has heard muperons inmates ef both Leavenworth asd Alcatras ” discuss the possibility of escaping from Alcatraz, Me stated ©.” ~ - glmost without exception all the imates he had talked to are ‘4m agreement that it is virtually impossible for an inmé' _ to escape from Alcatraz unless he has sone putsi : who could pick up the inmate on shore or in the Alcatraz shore, He stated the water that surrounds . reomally tested the . . @rrent which is extremely fast, stated he had kaown the ANGLIN Brothers, but he had aot been closely associated - with them and was is ao way iavolved ip any escape plan that they had considered in past years. He stated that if he was planning an escape he would comfide in mo one else and this has been his policy over the years in his criniaal . astivities, had not the ANGLIN brothers Well enough to kh: discussed any escape plan with them if he had wanted to, Me stated he bas heard ao reports of any . @acape plan by the ANGLINs while they were at the U. 3, Peaitentiary, Leavenworth, though they had attempted to escape from this iastituti Be stated he did aot kaow who had been closely associated with the ANGLIN brothers at Leavenvorth or Alcatraz, am SEES 227100: he has been [ny assigned to the hospital at this institution for several years and that he had sot been acquainted with the ANGLIN brothers when they were at U, 8, Penitentiary, Leaveaworth, He stated he did aot rec ze@ their photograph when it... appeared in the paper following the escape from Alcatraz and gid know yhe: © 8 when at Leavenworth, . Usb