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* pD-do2a Rev. 10-6-95) & : @ . 315E-HQ-1448534 Continuation of FD-302 of : Ali“Hasan Al=Majid »0n_04/09/2004.~ , Page __11 There, Al-Majid gave a speech declaring "Whoever has a friend in Dohuk, I will attack with chemical weapons tomorrow." Said attempted to interrupt Al-Majid because he did not want the timing of the operation to be revealed. Al-Majid directed him to communicate this information to Dohuk. He wanted "the illusion" of a chemical weapons attack to bé imprinted in the minds of those ‘controlling Dohuk. Al-Majid stated that the Iraqi government was weak in 1991. Thus, the chentical weapons "threat" was used aS a~ "scare tactic" against’ the saboteurs in Dohuk. Al-Majid directed the military to procure bags of flour or cement and attach them to helicopters. These aircraft were then used the following morning to spread the material over Dohuk and give the further "illusion" -of a chemical weapons attack. Al-Majid used this "scare tactic" to reduce losses on "our side and their side." Al-Majid walked into Dohuk at 9:30 am the same morning. * Some Iraqi military’ members would not enter the city, however, . : thinking that a chemical weapons attack had actually occurred. Al-Majid stated, "This tape has been altered." He added that the story he related about Dohuk is the real reason he is known as "Chemical Ali" and not because of Halabja. According to Al-Majid, Khazraji once told Abbas’ Mahmoud or Rasool Mahmoud that Al-Majid ordered the chemical weapons attack on Halabja. This is not true, however. . . . A portion -of this tape states, "Jalal Talabani asked me to open a special channel. of communication with him. That evening,. I went to Suleimaniyeh and hit them with the special ammunition. That was my answer." Al-Majid stated I inspected Suleimaniyeh and it was not hit. He added that he has never heard of such an attack, particularly with chemical weapons. He stated he did not order a chemical weapons attack on Talabani and his headquarters in the Jafati Valley near ‘Suleimaniyeh. Al-Majid stated, "This tape is not correct." He claimed that he actually went to Suleimaniyeh to meét with Talabani and that. the words "and hit them with the special ammunition" have been inserted into this tape. The remainder of the tape is a threat or scare tactic used by Al-Majid against the saboteurs in Dohuk. The interviewer played a portion of a copy of an audiotape of Al-Majid's voice.in Arabic. The segment played is from approximately 1:54 to 4:17 of the tape and includes the statements "...we will surround them in a small pocket and attack them with chemical weapons. I will not attack them with chemicals