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Rart-Two of the Chessman Interview nan SS DAILY 1 TROJAN | Special Events _ | | Joe Nevens, Special Events Editor 2 (Ed. Note: Today the Daily Trojan completes the running of the special tape- -recorded interview with convict-author and self-taught lawyer Cary’. man. Interviewing Chessman are Daily Trojan Editor- . in-Chief Jerry A. Burns and Joe Nevens, Daily Trojan Special Events Editor. The interview, was held in the jury room adjoining the courtreom where the Chess- man case is being ‘tried, the Los Angeles County Superior Court Building, on Jan. 15 and 16.) “We spoke to those associated with your case, and .they stated emphatically that there are those who . ‘cannot be rehabilitated. With your background and experience what about this individual, the one who cannot be rehabilitated?” . i “You are putting:me on the spot with a loaded ques- tjon because you are obliging me to answer first that there are those, and I don’t feel that that'senecessarily true. There may be those who through brain damage or some- . thing are not able to control their own acts, but I think that that’s a medical problem, as distinguished from’ a penalogical or a criminological one. Now if you mean sim- ply that there are those who are committed to the propo- 4 sition philosophically, "that the way to exist is to exist R . violently, or to exist by-preying on society, I don’t think a thats’ true; vecause I believe that they have a problem, . and even though it may be buried inside themselves, I * . think with the advance in psychiatric methods and psy- chiatric tools and techniques, that we will reach the point where we're able to look inside the man, and come cer- tainly with more reasonable explanations for the crim- inality rather than try to punish, we'll try to approach 4t with as much as any other mental affliction or aber- ration, and try to treat it and correct it.” * “I just wanted to-get that clear. Through your experience, would you say that everyone under these . conditions could be approached and _ rehabilitated, . . ¢iventhe proper conditions?” —_—_— | ENOLOSURG CRIME & SOCIETY Tolson ————— Boardman ———— Bel ont... Parsons — Rosen —————— Tamm ————— Trottet ——ws-—> Clayton ————— Tele. Room —— Holloman ——- Gandy ————— Wash. Post and Times Herald *° Wash. News Wash, Stor - N.Y. Herald ——_ Tribune ° N, Y. Journal- American N. Y. Mirror ——____ N. Y. Daily News — N.Y. Times ——_ Daily Worker ___* The Worker