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FD-302a (Rev. 10-6-95) 279A-WF-222936-BEI; 27en-we-222936[ | whic ¢ acted like he didn't remember very much. itionally, he didn't remember telling the FBI tha did it [mailed the anthrax letters]. | noted that IVINS seemed to forget a lot of things. i [__faskea IVINS a question along the lines of: could "the other BRUCE” have mailed the letters? Do faicn't recall him saying_"no," nor did he take offense to the question. It seemed tol as if he had thought of that before. IVINS told|___]that his attorney told him that with his dealings with the FBI, sometimes IVINS plays a puppy that wants to appease, and sometimes he plays junior-detective. IVINS has spent over $100 thousand dollars from his retirement fund, on his attorney. The next time IVINS has to testify, he will have to have a proffer. According to IVINS, the JAG on post wont allow anyone to talk to his attorneys. IVINS relayed that the way the FBI was treatin: him go over the edge, especially around November [2007]. him_made In IVINS's last interview [with the FBI] he was told the materi in the letters had colony morphology variance. The way thett han did it was to pick a single colony so they wouldn't have the morphology variance. One would have to swipe over a plate to get the morphology variance. IVINS claimed his microbiology background taught him to always pick a single colony. IVINS talked about the submissions tha{____fvins made to the [FBI anthrax] Repository. He claimed that the first submission was fine, however, someone threw it away; and the second submission is where the morphologies were seen. IVINS spoke about the polygraph he took [for the investigation] and that he passed some questions but failed the one about taking stuff from work.