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ALL J TION CONTAINED HERET UNCLASSIFIED FD-302 (Rev. 10-6-95) DATE 12-10-2008 BY 60324 UC BAU/RS/L3C -1- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION bé Date of transcription _09/26/2007 bie n ee with BRUCE EDI of the U.S. Army Milita Research Institute The Owing conversation took place: asked IVINS why he had a black eye. IVINS stated that he ran into something, then he joked that it was his wife's fist. IVINS denied alcohol being involved in the incident and added that he thought he got it while he was sleeping. He explained that his side table is close to his bed and he may have rolled over and hit it. then asked IVINS why_he was at work around midnight, the previous night, sending| Jenaiis.[Jaske him if he thought that puts up a big red flag [to investigators]. IVINS said that when he started working extra long and hard it wasn't viewed as evil or suspicious. At times, he would go work to get away from his Additionally, IVINS stated that he walked to work last night and then home around 1 AM. He explained that he took an ’ Ambien and then walked home and by that time he was zonked and didn't wake-up until the morning. VINS informed Lo Jenat he had suggested the idea setting-up a trailer off-post, at a place not close to a Topolitan area, and utilizing a fermenter to grow Ames spores. According to IVINS, he came up with this idea because Dugway [Proving Grounds] can't meet their demands. IVINS informed [tne people were telling to be more discrete an ess taunting to the FBI. examp @[__ is sending pictures, via email, of powdered sugar Investigation on 09/25/2007 a Fredereck, MD le# 279A-WF-222936-BEI — [AD ate detated |N/A SAI by PT This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI, It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency.