◆ SpookStack

H )-302a (Rev. 10-6-95) 279A-WF-222936-USAMRIID Bruce Edwards Ivins On 03/31/2005 _ ,Page Specifically, about one-half of the twenty samples he collected appeared to generate anthrax colonies when cultured. IVINS did not subject these "presumptive" positives to any confirmatory analysis. In to these presumptive positives, IVINS said he cleaned up Lo fesk and left it at that. He took no further actions to decontaminate the room. When questioned as to why he took no remedial measures beyond cleaning upL______—sdidesk, IVINS advised that he did not consider the level of contamination indicated by his sampling to be significant, stating that he did not find "hundreds or thousands" of spores but only a "few presumptives." IVINS said he did not believe a full decontamination of the room was warranted based on his findings, and he did not perceive himself or his office mates to be in any danger. I jxrmed that he did not tell bout his swabbing of workspace nor did he advi £ the presumptive positive results. IVINS did tell about his findings. He did not suggest to either co-worker that antibiotic prophylaxis might be appropriate. IVINS again reiterated that based on the level of contamination he observed, he did not perceive himself or his coworkers to be at risk. IVINS confirmed that he undertook the collection of environmental samples from his office space on his own initiative and without any prior authorization from superiors. When queried as to why he did not seek permission to swab or_voi i about the possible contamination to USAMRIID's or others, IVINS predicted that him to "forget abi it. CL Jangry reaction when learned of IVINS' environmental sampling confirmed IVINS' suspicions that ould be opposed wabbing. IVINS ‘opined that despite his outward response, Pe inwaraiy seemed "sort of_please with IVINS' finding ntamination because it allowed o "point a finger" at for poor laboratory safety procedures. IVINS also re-emphasized that there was a longstanding political rivalry between DSD and the Bacteriology Division. According to IVINS, Bacteriology Division employees felt somewhat ostracized and belittled by DSD researchers who were reportedly loathe to consult Bacteriology employees concerning matters within Bacteriology employees' superior expertise. The path to swab was the path that the Daschle letter took from fo) and through the pass-box in the wall of suite B3. IVINS believed