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To: countertor Pion From: a Re: 279A-WF-222936-LEAD, 10/04/2004 Fe melbetioves that if someone wanted to, they could remove select agents from the hot areas by placing them in vials and then putting the vials in their pockets. — never witnessed_anyone removing any select agents from the hot areas but in opinion, such removal could be easily accomplished. lexplained that the military technicians were strictly accountable for all the materials that they used in their experiments. The military personnel had to sign for all of the materials they used and account for them at the end of each day. All of the materials were turned in or documentation _had to be provided that showed that they were destroyed. ite civilian lab technicians were not he! to suc igh standards of accountability for the materials they worked with. fd never heard anyone talking about removing any select agent from the lab. never heard anyone make any statement indicating a ey were going to try to obtain a select agent to used it for some improper purpose. was not aware of any persons with access and ability to create or handle dangerous biological weapons to express hostile attitudes toward any political organization, the media or others. Istated that none of the people that | worked with were lax in handling dangerous items or inappropriately i i gents that could ned _ into harmful _ agents. again stated that a oo of the civilian technicians were more lax in their ollowing of procedures than the military personnel who worked at the lab. — could not identify any specific . individuals who were lax in handling dangerous items. During the time taat[ ___ worked at USAMRIID, [Jnever heard any rumors indicating that there was an individual or individuals who were interested in gaining access to Anthrax or any other biological or chemical agents. | not know of or hear any rumors indicating that anyone was trying to obtain the means to produce Anthrax or other biological or chemical agents who did not have a specific need or ' responsibility for doing so. Cg titated that in order to mail dried Anthrax, someone wou. ave to be able to know how to weaponize it. inf _ opinion, whoever prepared the Anthrax that was mailed in October of 2001, had to have access to a great deal of laboratory machinery in order to make it