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24 ’ FD-302a (Rev. 10-6-95) 279A-WF-222936-BRI ‘ —_ Continuation of FD-302 of BRUCE EDWARDS IVINS ,On 02/13/08 , Page 7 In a report dated October 18, 2001, IVINS wrote about the concentration and purity of the spores in the Daschle letter. In that report, he opined the evidence is not "garage" spores. When asked what he meant by garage spores, IVINS explained they were highly purified and had no vegitative cells, debris, or non- refractile spores. To produce spores of that quality, not only is very sophisticated laboratory equipment necessary, but one must have extensive experience in the purification process. Based on these factors, it is IVINS' opinion that the spores from the mail were grown/created in a laboratory and not someone's home or garage. IVINS volunteered chat} iva the spore queen." IVINS was shown a diagram he drew and gave told [Jon 1/23/02 and asked to explain what he meant by the diagram. IVINS didn't remember drawing the diagram and asked when he prepared it and what the interview was about. IVINS was not told the date of the diagram or the context of the interview, and he was again asked to interpret it. IVINS was non-responsive to the question and would not provide an explanation of what he meant by the diagram. Rather, he merely identified the names and places written on the diagram. IVINS was then shown two photographs of spores grown on blood agar plates. One photograph was labeled "IVIN'S SPORE PREPARATION" while the other was labeled "FTD 1004 FROZEN CULTURE." TVINS had previously typed captions under each photograph which purportedly explained what was depicted in them. IVINS was asked if the captions verbalized what was meant by the diagram. The captions under the photographs read as follows: "Ames strain - Fron[ ____iutture collection at USAMRIID. Similar in appearance fo th d anthracis colonies from mail. Sent to who i , who sent it to This version of the Ames strain was serially passaged before freezing down and storing in the culture collection." "Ames strain - from original agar slant from Ames, Iowa USDA. This is the version of the Ames strain used by L__] nd Bruce Ivins. This version of the Ames strain given to Dugway Proving Ground, Battelle Memorial Research Institute, DRES, and U. of New Mexico.!"