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¢ —@ Ros JOPN 1. LEWIS, ET AL. Lb) cL } 22D INTERVIEa “ITH "I rerncmber sigming a petition, I don't know just when, asking for a referendum to sez which union had the majcrity. This was a P.M.A. petition, and ifm reason- ably sure I signed one, but I can't be positive of it. 1 co remenoe: thet no one asked me to join the U.Ma. in 1937. "T don't remember getting any notice that the mine was going to open up in the fall of 1957. I picketed the mine at this time, to keep the U.llva. men out of the mine. I don't remember how I got notice of the picket line. It might have been at a P.M.A. meeting, but I'm nct sure. I was not made to go out to the picket line. The P.M.A. men went out to the mine to work. I don't remember seeing any U.M.w. men trying to go down into the mine et this time. The ‘rjunction was resi to us by a federal man, and was for the purposs of getting the P.M.A. man evay from the mine. After the injunction was read, we ell left. we were villing to leave the matter up to the P.M.4A. cfficials, and were willing t» abide by their decisions. The decisions were all arrived at efter a discussion, and anyone could get up end speak his mind. "I remember the election in the winter of 1937, at the arsenal. I don't remember how I heard about it but think I sew it in the paper. I went to the election cf my own accord, snd voted the way I wanted to. I got no instructions from the P.M.A. officers as to hew to vote. I voted for P.N.a. Cecause I was satisfied with that unicn, and prcferred it to the UM. "I don't remember anyone ccming to me while I was out on strike, either tc join the U.M.%. or to keep in the P.M.4. I went to some P.M.A. mectings, but don't know how many, cr whet was discussed. In the fall of 1959, I get a letter from the kine B management saying thet the mine wes going to open. They said they would izt me kmow when a place was ready for me. i don t remember just exactly when I went back to work. "Zfter I went back to work in the mine, | asked nq to goin the U.h.i. Dy signing a referendum petition. I told him I didn't want to until I sew how the men felt. He then asked me to come to a UML. meeting to sec how meny Mine B men were there. I went and sew about half the men from Nine B there. around this time I heard several men saying thet if the U. hea. didn't get a contract with Mine B, the mine wouldn't stay open. _1 don't remember any certain men saying this, end don't know if it was @ U.N... man or not. I joined U.M.w. at that timo, because I thought that if I didn't join U.M.w., and the U.M.i. didn't gct the contract, the mine wouldn't stay open. Wo one forced me to join, and I wasn't threatened. "In February of 1941, at the election I voted fer the U.M.W. be- cnusc I figured that under the U.M.%. the men would be able to keep on working. After the mine opened up, I saw we alking around the