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Re: JOHN L. LEWIS, ET AL x . Ex WITH | was interview — on September 12, 1 J’ ‘ee °° noc an illitverave person and he seemed to give the impression did not care at ali for any union but had to belong to then to work and as noted in the statement he dislikes both unions. He would make a rather imoressive witness. He advised tmt he had never been arrested in his life. xecuted the following signed statement but declined to sign it. =f + ‘ nT give the following information to ay Wi ke o aré known to me to be Special Acents of the F.B.I. No promises or tnreats have been made me to give this statement. "I was vom QE. I first joined t.u.m. in Qin Ill. Iostarted at Mine 5 about 10 or 11 years ago & I still ama there. I joined P.M.A. at Mine B when I started. I never have hel. ny union office. J never cared for P.N.A. or U.M.W. as they never did me any good. P.L.A. first attempted to stop me from working there. I couldn't say if there was difficulties at Mine B between P.M.A. & management before it closed. No one ever said a thing to me about going back to U.ILT7. I always worked on top in the shop from 6 a.m. to 3:15 p.m. I never attended one P.L.A. meeting. I never liked the P.H.A. officials as they would not give me a card but the P.M.A. executive officials handed dovn a decision they had to give me a card so naturally I never liked them. Regarding the men sent to jail for the bombing I don't know a te os i " i * thing of it as I never associsted with the miners. Refore Mine B closed P.M.A. dues were about same as other unions. That P.M.A. union was about some as any other union as you never get any benefits from them but just pay into them. U.k.u. never picketed Mine Bas far as I know before it closed or give out literature. I never heard of any parties Elshoff gave for U.M.. or they g-ve for Elshoff. Before Mine B closed in 1937 we rorked without a contract as it always was that way each year. I heard Elshoff was an independent oper:tor but he did what others did and it was same again as before to work without a contract. I heard that the men were not pleased because a contract formed for others had allowed an increase but Mine B contract wasn't signed yet. I also heard the back pay was to be retroactive. Before Mine B closed I don't recall of any stoppages or sit down strikes. I never heard any PMA officials say anything about the contracts to m. J did not attend the meeting before Mine B closed as I never went to any. I wrked day — Mi ne B “lnced & I did not know it wes goine to strike T weme all af so co ol =] ek te Ra ck adK rr a a a A Oo 00 So oe Se sudden to me. TI wis in the wssh-house & the men came in at 2:15 P.¥. & s:id mine was on strike. They said it was because of the back-pay & #- ]1 =