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we Re: JOHN L. LEAIS, ET AL INTERVIE) WITH 8 Springfield, 1lilinois, was interviewed av nis psssnumunaeeesad home September 18, 1943 by Special Agents and stated that he did not have a criminal . cord, is able to speak and understand English well and would ma: a good witness, BRD 2xnishes the following statement: "Springfield, Ill., September 18, 1943. "I, REE “ve — Til., make the following voluntary statement to and ili a whom I know to be Special Agents of the Federal Bureau of vestigation, no force, threats, or promises have been made in obtaining this statement and J know that what I may say may be used in a court of law. "I was born in Si "J was employed at Mine 't4" about end I am employed at Mine “A" at the present time as a digver. “] joined UT ‘ Ill. I remained a member of U.E.™. until 1932 at which time [joined Pia as UMY wanted to cut the wage scale, "Jn Sept. 1941 I read in the newspaper that hisnoff bought Mine TAN, J thought at that time that Mine "A™ would operate as always aS a PMA mine. "prior to the time Elshoff bought Mine 'A™ the emcloyces were satisfied with P.M.A. I thought PMA was a good union being operated for its members. "T prefer to be a member of PMA rather than hec of PRA elect the officials and delegates whereas they are appointed in URI. "Y heard from someone that Elshoff was going to operate Mine "a" through Mine "5", I did not pay any attention to this because I did not think it would happen. I also heard that Elshoff would not open Mine "A" unless the employees joined UM. I do not know where I heard this. I decided I would not do anything to prevent the change from PMA to UMW and that I would wait and see what happened = 635 - rather than Uk¥ because the members ro