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TINTERVIG.! WITH Se 8p ineficid, [llinois, “Was intervicwea at nis home on September 17, 1943 by Special agent en stated he did not have a criminal record. inds 1 ffi- cult to scsak and understand English and would not maxe a good witness. It Was %bviovs from the interview that was not in sympathy with the investigation although he stcted no =. him not to furnish any informa- tion or telked toe him about the investigation. QS faaerished the followin. statement: "Springfield, Tl. September 17, 1943 "TI, following Voluntcr? er I know to be Special agents of the £ force, threats or promises have bcen nade in obtaining this statement and I Lee oe tht whet Toma |r n 7 ATIOW G2 What « Mey say moay be used ina court of ine. , Springfield, T11., make the at "T was born in Pd emmigrated to the U.S. in and I beeame a naturzlized citizen of the U.5. in iy in Springtield, Ili. "IT beeane a member of UE! in and I remained 2 menber of UM? until 1932 at which time I becane a membur of PMA because my local UL% union changed to Pil... NIn about Sept. 1941 soncone told ne that Elshoff bought Mine "A" fron Ryan. JI thought at that time that Mine "A" wu 1d become an UM] mine be- cause Minc "B" which was operated by Elshoff wes UM... "Before Elshoff bought Mine "4A" the mon werc satisfied with FMA. I thought Pl, was a good union, but it made no difference to mc whether I was a member of UT or PMA. "I did not hear anyone say that Mine "4° could be operated through Mine "B", ", fow days after Elshoff bought Mine “A" I attended a meeting of PMA at PMA hal], Sm. 254 24 this necting that if the miners at Mine "a" did not bine 1A ; at ne "4" would not be opened. I do not remember what else went on at this teetin:. "I attended a necting et Elks Club on a Sunday in Sept. 1941. P| ae: in charge of this necting and told us that if we did not join UMW, ne "A! would be closed. J voted that day to join UMY so that I could work - 637 - on | =