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masses today are intere’ ‘n Muhammad's Land. The Pro * Land that the Honorable Elijah Muhammad talks a _ ae right here on thie earth. ,’:.. -lligent black men today are interested ina religious doctrine that offera a solutkch to thair problems right now, right here on this earth, while they are alive. You must understand that the Honorable Elijah Muhammad represents the fulfilment of Biblical prophecy to us. In the Old Testament, Moses lived to see his enemy, Pharaoh, drowned in-the Red Sea - which in essence peans that Mr. Muhammad will see the comple- tion of his work in his lifetime, that he will live to see victory gained over his enemy. . PLAYBOY: The Old Testament connection seems tenuous. Are you referring to the Muslia judgment day which your organization's newspaper, Muhainmad Speaks, calls “Armageddon” and prophesies as imminent? MALCCLM X: Armageddon deals with the final battle between God and the Devil. Ths Third World War is referred to as Armageddon by wany white statesmen. There won't be any more war after then because there won't be any more war mongers. I don’t know when Armageddon, whatever form it takes, is supposed to be. But I know the time is near when the white man will be finished. The signs are all around us. Ten years ago you couldn't have_paid a Southern Negro to defy local customs. The British Lion's tail has been snatched off in black Africa. The Indonesians have booted out such would-be in- perialists as the Dutch. The French, who felt for a century that Algeria was theirs, have had to run for their lives back to France. Sir, the point I make is that all over the world, the old day of standing in fear and trembling before the almighty vhite san is gone: PLAYBOY: You refer to whites as the guilty and the enemy, you predict divine retribu- tion against them; and you preach absolute separation from the white community. Do not these views substantiate that your movement is predicated on race hatred? MALCOLM XZ: Sir, it's from Mr. Muhammad that the black meases are learning for the first time in 400 years the real truth of how the white man brainwashed the black man, kept him ignorant of his true history, robbed him of his self-confidence. The black masses for the firat time are understanding that it's not a case of being anti-white or anti- Christain, but it's a case of seeing the true nature of the white man. We're anti- evil, anti-oppression, anti-lynching. You can't be anti~ those things unless you're also anti- the oppressor and the lyncher. You can't be anti-slavery and pro-slave- moster; you can't be anti-crime and pro-criminal. In fact, Mr. Muhammad teaches chat if the present generation of whites would study their own race in the light of their true history, they would be anti-white themselves, PLAYUOY: Are you? MALCOLM X: As soon as the white man hears a black man say that he's through loving white people, then the white man accuses the black man of hating him, The Honorable ~ Elijah Muhammad doesn't teach hate. The white man isn't important enough for the Hon- orable Elijah Muhammad and his followers to spend any time hating him. The white man has brainwashed himself into believing that all the black people in the world want to be cuddled up next to him. When he meete what we're talking about, he can't believe it, takes all the wind out of him. When we tell him we don't want to be around hia, we don't to be like he is, he's staggered. It makes him re-evaluate his 300-year myth about the black man, What I want to know is how the white man, with the blood of black people dripping off hie fingers, can have the audacity to be asking black people do they hate him. That takes a lot of nerve. PLAYBOY: How do you reconcile your disavowal of hatred with the announcement you made last year that Allah had brought you "the good news" that 120 white Atlantans had just been killed in an air crash en route to America from Paris? MALCOLM X: Sir, as I see the law of justice, it says as you sow, so shall you reap. The white am has reveled as the rope snapped black men's necks. He has reveled around the lynching fire. It's only right for the black man's true God, Allah, to defend us - and for us to be joyous because our God manifests hié ability to inflict pain on our enemy. We Muslims believe that the white race, which is guilty of having oppressed and exploited and enslaved our people here in America, should and will be the victims of God's divine wrath. All civilized societies in their courts of justice set a sen~ tence of execution against those deemed to be enemies of society, such as murderers and kidnaperse. The presence of 20,000,000 black people here in America is proof chat Uncle Sam is guilty of kidnaping - because we didn't come here voluntarily on the 3 A Pe ae rere oe -