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\ 0-19 (Rev. 12-14-64) 4 “meee [Harry "RINE ititant staff . writer, has been delivering a series of news commentaries over radio station WBAI-FM in New York. - His program of Jan. 28 was de. voted to an interview with Mal- | colm X,. The following is s tran- script of the interview.] Ring: Movement are generally critical of that section of the movement ' Known ag the Black Mustims or . Black Nationalists, I think this is due in good measure to the lack of unbiased Information as ta what © those described as Black Natlonal- ists really stand for, and 2 think this lack of accurate information is the preduct of a deliberate pol- icy of distortion and misrepresen- tation by the general news media, J think, for example, that one of the most misrepresented and maligned public figures in this country today is Malooim X, leader of the Muslim Mosque, Inc., and chairman of the Organization of Afro-American Unity. Because I feel his views have been so badly distorted, I have in- vited Malcolm X to be my guest on this program te ask him some questions te get at what he really believes. Minister Malcolm, it is just a year since you have been agso- clated with Elijah Makammad and | his Nation of Islam, Have your . views changed since then and, if - 80, can you indicate in what way they have changed? 176 FEB 24 1965 adio Intervie Many whites who are— sympathetic to the Freedom Now | Malcolm X: Welltlfave been traveling and my scope has broad~ » ened. For one thing, I believe in ; the religion of Islam which auto- i matically teaches us the brother- :. hood of man. Whereas as a fol- : lower of Elijah Muhammad, I said ; that I believed in the ‘religion of Islam but his teaching or version of it was not based upon the bro- « therhood of man. It was against people just on the basis of their color. But my beliefs now are 100 Percent against racism and against segregation in any form and I also believe that in the religion of Islam, as I now understand {t, that we don't judge a person by the color of his skin but, rather, by his behavior, by his deeds and we think that this is justified, Ring: Let me ask you a ques- tion about a problem that disturbs many white supporters of the Freedom Now Movement. Why do you reject the concept of non- viclence? O7 / XFL £ Malcolm Xf Well, we think that when non-violence Is taught to the Ku Kiux Klen or the White Citizens Council or these other ele- ments that are inflicting extreme brutality against blacks in this country, then we would accept it. / if we're dealing with a non-vio- lent enemy, then we would be ! non-violent, too. But as long as ; Our people in this country have ' to face the continued acts of bru- tality on the part of the racist element in the North as well as in the South, then I don't think that we should be called upon to be non-violent. When they'll get non-viclent, wéTl get non-violent. ~ te Po A pg ae Ce a ee ei. a Tolson ——————— Belmont Mohr DeLoach Casper —______~ Callahan —— Cantrad _____— Felt Gale Rosen Sullivan Tavel Trotter Tele Room Holmes Gandy yt The Washington Post and Times Herald The Washington Daily News The Eventng Star ——_-—___—— New York Herald Tribune “Mew York Journai-American New York Daily News ————— New York Post —____—_—____—— The New York Times The Baltimore Sun —.. —____—— The Worker — The New Leader ———— The Wall Street Journal h, The National Observer —_—%»—_—_— People’s Warld Date tte Militant"