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National Security Letters — Part 1
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Weil, | would suspect that I join the chairman and many members on both sides of the
aisle in saying [ have serious doubts about whether or not the Congress can continue to
extend capahilities that are not 100 percent adhered to and there are no significant results
when they're not adhered to, and then not feel that what we're doing is giving the FBI the
ability to violate people's constitutional rights.
And, you know, | heard today, "Well, geez, we wouldn't exclude this” --and
Congressman Schiff brought it out -- "we won't exclude this information, even though we
played fast and loose. And we won't dismiss and we won't prosecute.”
Weill, with all due respect, from the attorney general on down, you should be ashamed
of yourself.
We stretched what we could give in the Patriot Act. We stretched to try to give you the
tools necessary to make America safe, And it is very, very clear that you've abused that
trust.
And when the reauthorization of the Patriot Act comes up or any bill coming down the
pike. if you lose some of these tools, America may be less safe, but the Constitution will
be more secure. And it will be because of your failure to deal with this in a serious
fashion.
I yield back.
CONYERS:
Thank you very much.
The chair recognizes Keith Ellison, the gentleman from Minnesota.
ELLISON:
Thank you, Mr. Chair.
Mr. Fine, T want to talk to you about your report recommendations, starting with the
exigent letters.
Wouldn't it be better, simply, to adopt the FBI's current practice of simply banning the
use of exigent letters? [ noticed that in your recommendations -- or in what I believe are
your recommendations -- your suggestion is to take steps that the FBI not improperly use
the letters. But why not just say: "No exigent letters"?
FINE:
Well, there shouldn't be an exigent letter of the sort that they use. There is a process
under the statute to get emergency information under certain conditions. And that’s the
way they ought to do it. So that is a proper use of such a request.
They surely should ban the way they did it in the past.
ELLISON: ;
And that would be a change by statute or a rule change?
FINE:
Well, 1t doesn't need to be a statute. There ts a statute that allows voluntary disclosure
if there is an imminent threat and danger to the safety of an individual or others.
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