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& tet ty + wD ~ HH Nn We ie Hale ot al ” . es ee Page 7 w@”:*«P'e Se Smith 43-26, Qe Did you have any further talk cnout if at any other time - about the blowing up of the Sxith home or about ” . No, i believe that was the last conversation I had with hime « Where was it you had that? 4&4. Over at Ralston in the middle of the street between tha . | First National Bank and that little restaurant, about five o'clock one afternoon. I phoned his wife and told her to tell Bill to come to me and he came down to see what I wanted. sut he at numerous and other times for the last two years had Mentioned about killing Bill Smith, with the aanity that Ke may have his estate. In the first piace Sill arranged for me to Marry Mollie, Ernie Burkhart's wife. He said, "You can marry Mollie and change from one to the other and finally wind up with the estate. I had been euimg with Moltkie and they moved a house down there on the creek for Mollie and I to geet married ine That is the first proposition Bill and I started out with in this deal. @. Matt, have you any motive of any kind in “tellis¢e this story other than to just let the court kmow what you know? a A. Yone whatever. Qe Is there any enmity or ill-feeling on your part toward gil] Hale and John Ramsey and Ernest Burkhart? A. Not at all. I never had a cross work with them in my life. Ge Is there any promise of reward held out to you? ae None woatever. I have got no indictments or Londs cr trouble of any kiné in the world, Q@» You have no occasion for seeking immunity frcom prosecution of any ind? A. Wo, there-is nothing ageinst ma. There aint no warrant no place in the world for me, and further, 7. K. Hale solicites my aid. He told my brother-in-lew, Chomas Uattheys, to conc. to jail to see him, ond he made the statement to my brother- in-law, Thomas 5S. Matthews, he says, "My God, is Matt going to testify against me? See him and sce what you can do with him.” He said, ‘Sly God, I never in the world had nothing to do with this at all." He says "See Matt as sovn as convenient and send him to me." Th.t is what Tom toid me down in the street. a -o# ‘fom Matthews is a brother of Rose? ‘A full brother. und he is also a member of the Tribe? Nese . : jen neat Well, now, suppose we go to the Anna Brown murder, ‘What is the information you have on that matter? well, that is awful strong. ion ME We cae a cate SE mo me reid : net a ova = . f - ’ a gg RT RE es : . ee ey ee ee a