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FLYING SAUCERS continued
BARNEY: I thought I was inside something. But
I did not dare open my eyes. I had been told to
keep my eyes closed by the man I saw through
the binoculars.
pocror: Was this one of the men in the road?
BARNEY: No. These men in the road . . . they
took me and carried me up this ramp.
poctor: Carried you up the ramp?
BARNEY: I know I was going up something, and
my feet were dragging,
pocor: These are the men who flagged you
down?
BARNEY: Yes.
pocror: How many were there?
BARNEY: I thought I saw a cluster of six men:
Because three of them came to me and three did
not.
pocror: How were they dressed?
BARNEY: They were all in dark clothing. And
they were all dressed alike.
pocror: Were they white men?
BARNEY: I don't know by the color. But they did
not seem that they had different faces from white
men. .
pocror: Did they tell you why they were stop
ping you?
BARNEY: They didn’t tell me anything. They
didn’t say anything.
pocror: Were these men holding you?
BARNEY: They were by my side, and I had a
funny feeling because I knew they were holding
me, but I couldn't feel them. . . .I felt floating,
suspended. . . . opened my eyes.
pocror: What did you see?
BARNEY: I saw a hospital operating room. It was
pale blue. Sky blue. And I closed my eyes.
pocror: Do you remember the operating room
when you had your tonsils out? . . . Was that op-
erating room in the hospital blue?
barney: No. It was bright lights. . . . But this
room was not like that. It was spotless.
poctor: Did you feel you were going to be
operated on?
BARNEY: No.
pocror: Did you feel you were being attacked
in any way?
BARNEY: No.
pocror: You said your groin fele cold. :
BARNEY: I was lying on a table, and I thought
someone was putting a cup around my groin, and
then it stopped. And then I thought: How funny.
If I keep real quiet and real still, I won't be
harmed, And it will be over. And I will just stay
here and pretend that I am anywhere and think
of God and think of Jesus, and think that I am
not afraid. And I am getting off the table, and
I've got a big grin on my face, and I feel greatly
relieved. And I am walking, and I am being
guided. And my eyes are closed, and I open my
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eyes, and there is the cat. And the lights are off,
and the motoris not running. And Delsey is under
the seat. And I reached under and touched her,
and she is in a tight ball under the seat, and I sit
back. And I see Betty is coming down the road,
and she gets into the car, and I am grinning at her
and she is grinning back at me. And we both
seem so elated, and we are really happy. And I'm
thinking: It isn’t too bad. How funny. I had no
reason to fear. And we look, and I see a bright
moon, And I laugh, and say: Well, there it goes:
poctor: You mean this object was gone?
pARNEY: Yes. .. . It was going
poctor: Going. Could you still see it?
BARNEY: It was a bright, huge ball. Orange. It
was a beautiful bright ball. And it was going.
‘And it was gone. And we were in darkness, and I
put on the lights of the car, and looked down the
Foad. And we began driving, and I could see a
slight incline, and then I drove and came back to
Route 3, because I was on a cement road. And
Berty and I feel, I feel real hilarious, like a feeling
of well-being and great relief.
pocror: What were you relieved about?
pARNEY: I am relieved because I feel like I've
been in a harrowing situation, and there was
nothing damaging or harmful about it. And I feel
greatly relieved.
poctor: And the flying object was gone?
barney: Yes. Betty is giggling, and she said:
Do you believe in flying saucers now? And I
said: Oh, Betty, don't be ridiculous. Of course, T
don't. And we heard a beeping, and the car
buzzed, and I kept silent.
pocror: You heard a beeping.
BARNEY: Beep—beep—beep—beep—beep.
poctor: Did they sound likesome of thesebeeps
you get on a radio, when you have code signals?
Or what did they sound like?
BARNEY: Beep—beep—beep. . . . I thought it
was strange. . . . And at the first beep or two, I
touched the steering wheel with my finger tips
because I thought I fele a vibration when I heard
the beep. Andasit continued, Betty looked to the
back, and I slowed the car down and stopped.
‘And I said to Betty: Is there something shifting
in the car?
poctor: Did she say anything about hearing
the beeps?
BARNEY: She said: What is that noise? And
we looked in the back, and Delsey had climbed
up on the back seat, and her ears were popped up,
and the beep, beep, beep. And I said: Oh, oh, do
you think the ching is still around? I called it
thing; Betty called it a flying saucer. And we had
no answer... . L wonder if I can make the car do
that. So I drove the cat fast and then would de-
celerate, rapidly. And I swerved over to the left
of the highway and back to the right. And I came
to a complete stop and accelerated rapidly. But I
could not seem to get that sound. And we drove
down the highway. And I saw the road for the ex-
pressway: 17 miles to Concord. And I drove to
Concord, and down Route 4...
A few minutes later:
BARNEY: . . . She asked me did I believe in fly-
ing saucers. And I did not want to say what I real-
ly believed.
pocror: What did you really believe?
BARNEY: I believed that we had seen and been
a part of something different than anything I had
ever seen before.
pocror: Did you fear you had been kidnapped?
barney: I didn't use that word. I did not feel
thar I had been kidnapped. But I think of kid-
napping when you are being harmed.
pocror: And you weren't harmed?
BARNEY: No.
pocror: You had no idea why this was done?
BARNEY: I was anxious to get home and look
atmy groin... .I thought, this is proof that some-
thing happened co me. And I was unsure. And I
would waver, feeling that it can’t be. And then T
would think: But it did happen. And I would
think: When I get home and look at my groin, T
will couch whatever touched me and see if there
is a mark. I drove home, and I went into the bath-
room and examined myself and saw nothing
wrong, And I went into the bedroom, and I kept
thinking that something is around me. I went to
the window, and looked upinto themorning sky,
and I went to the back door and opened it and
looked at the sky. And I thought: Something is
around, somewhere, And Betty and I retired, talk-
ing. Wasn't that strange, whatever happened.
‘And I could not remember anything that hap-
pened except that I was at Indian Head. And 1
Fvent to bed. And when we woke up, we decided
we would not ever tell anyone. . .
When the second session was finally over,
Dr. Simon reviewed the case in the first real light
that had been thrown on the amnesic period.
‘Although he was still somewhat skeptical at the
‘end of this session, he was beginning to believe
that some incident involving 2 UFO was at least
partly responsible for Barney Hill's severe emo-
fional upheaval. But he was bafiled by the second
part of his patient's story—the part detailing the
supposed “abduction” by humanoid beings. He
hoped that Betty Hill could provide some ex-
planation for her husband's account, and he
ccheduled a session the following week in which
she would retrace, under hypnosis, the long jour-
ney home.
In the next issue of LOOK: Under hypnosis, Betty Hill relivesa strange physical ex-
amination aboard the UFO, describes an unusual book she tried to take from the
ship, a space map on the wall and recounts her conversations with the uniformed
men, in Part Two of The Interrupted Journey, to be published by The Dial Press, Inc.
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