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Ce me Sibel Letter to the Director re: AL CAPONE oe During the course of the conversation CAPONE wuld stop and ask, "What were we talking about?7* and he would have to be brought back to the subject matter, which indicated to Agent that his mind does not function normally, CAPONE stated he formerly belonged to Tammany Hall Party in New York prior to the establishment of his Chicago residence, During the course of the interview, AL CAPONE spoke of * Sonny "his son, who is now @ lawyer and who graduated from Kotre Dame. He stated he had received a letter from the school authorities at Notre Dame informing him that his son was a diligent student but that he shunned recreation. CAPONE stated that RALPH ROE, Fugitive, was a likeable fellow and that it was his opinion ROE had actually escaped. He stated that he doubted whether COLE made a successful escape but could not explain why one would get away and not the other. He stated that the Alcatraz Institution was ao tight he did not believe ROE or COLE, or any other inmate could possibly get information out of Alcatraz for assistance in having a boat meet him, He stated both of these men worked in the mat shop making mats out of tire casings, and it was the general thought that eutomobile inner tubes had been left in some of the tiers and they had effected their escape by use of the inner tubes. CAPONE then spoke of @ son %ucas who had stabbed him four times in the back at Alcatraz, He stated that he smashed LUCAS with a banjo, He stated he had previously been approached by Lucas esting his assistance to escape from Alcatraz. During the course of the investigation, CAPONE expressed ht in the fact he was going to be released on November 19, RALPH CAPONE who was to come to outhern California the latter part of October, He stated that TOM Ss |, Head of the Chicago Office of the United States Secret Service was going to accompany him and RALPH CAPONE to Florida. He gave no indication that he had a divorce from his wife or that his wife was attempting to divorce him, It appeared doubtful to Agent wh®ther his family or the prison authorities would advise him of