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‘For Rassians Again “ee Philby, in Interview, Says ould Spy’ r] By ALVIN SHUSTER >” Special to The New York Times LONDON, Wednesday, Nov. 15—Harold*Philby said in an! interview published here today, that he had no regrets over his 30-yeat career of spying for the Soviet Union and would do it| all over “if I were young again in Britain today.” ony * Philby, & ranking British in: jtelligence agent who defected to the Soviet Union in 1963, said that he led his life as a double agent. because he want led to “fight unis: land was “prepared to subjugate everything in pursuit of that: Purpose.” « pot “I would do'it again tomor- row,” he said.” i + Mentality of a Traitor’ He was interviewed by Roy’ Blackman, Daily Express re-| porter in Moscow, in a restau-| rant there. Officials of the newspaper here said that they had not paid for the interview and that it had resulted from “hounding” Philby. °° The Sunday Times, which published a series of articles on the career of Philby in re- cent weeks, indicated in one of its pieces that Philby had asked for’ money for. his personal story. oe In an ‘editorial note, The Ex- press ‘said that the. interview could pot have been obtained withoutthe”-t8prolaros—the Soviet, authorities, “whose mo- tives forndiseteditisfg—treBrit- ish and Western intelligence services are obvious.” But it! said that it was publishing the; interview because it provided. jan insight - the mentality} of a traitor ; : Philby hfd remained inac-| 'cessible to Western correspond- ‘ents in Moscow since he ar- \tived, from Beirut, a0: four “yeers—#2o..He Was seen |Sundi ight at the concert of the eee hace : ic, but said only that he had) nothing to say. The Daily Express, which in- cluded pictures of Philby and Mr. Blackman in the restaurant, said that the interview took: place between “drams of vodka and glasses of white Georgian wine.” arn “I cannot say my conversion, happened at any fixed point of| time,” Philby is quoted as say- ing, “but 1 do know that after] two years of painful thought I bad made up my mind in June, med Calls Job Easy He said that it had not been difficult to reach a high posi- tion in British intelligence, “3 just arranged things so that } was invited,” he added. Philby, regarded as the most [important Soviet agent to pene- trate the Western intelligence community, at one point head- ed the British anti-Soviet intel- ligence operation. ‘In the late} nineteen orties he was sent ae ‘Washington tp work wit e Central Intelligence Agency, ‘which, was then getting organ- ized. : He left the British intelii- gence service in 1955 and con- tinued his spying as a journalist until his defection. Philby said in the interview that, since his arrival in Mos- cow, “I have been treated with| high honor and great considera: tion” and that “I cannot really regard my life as being one of hardship.” On British intelligence, Phil- by said that the British Gov- ernment had great difficulties| in finding the right men to run their intelligence services. Mili-} tary me “have never really] shone” in this field, he said.’ Discusses Motives “I am surprised that the Americans were not better led,”| he added. . In discussing his motivation for turning Communist, Philby; recounted his feelings in the "thirties. OF “The background of my thinking was the economic crisis and massive unemploy-| t DELETED COPY SENT ment throughout the capitalist] wort amt the appai i] lessnese of existing forces deal w! - ita Shai pte. ture it was.” _ Asked by Mr, Blackman what hi missed of English life, Philby said that he missed beer and oysters, an occasional afternoon at the soccer matches and some friends. ' But he added that there were: some things he did not- mind) being without, listing “the ex- pense-account funch, British} railways, the Beaverbrook press,| all the humbug about’ police, bank holiday, The English Channel, the rising cost of liv-| ing, the Order of the iti; Eee: H tye British Callahan Conrad —_—_____ Felt Gale Rosen Sullivan Tavel Trotter Tele. Room Holmes Gandy The Washington Post Times Herald The Washington Daily News The Evening Star (Washington) ‘The Sunday Star (Washington) —__ Daily News (New York) Sunday News (New York) Re ave : LETLERA fis (26 ~# FOIA REQUEST New York Post The New York Times (_ ‘The Sun (Baltimore) The Worker — The-New Leader The Wall Street Journal The National Observer People’s World —___ Date __NOV_15 1967 __ %.