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+ FD302a Rev. 10-6-95) v ‘Contniation 6f D304 of _ “Ali Hasan’ Al-Majid ~~ -" _,0n04/04/2004 __;Page_-_5~ 315E-HQ-1448534 Al-Majid denied that he ordered family members of "unrepentant. saboteurs" living in government-controlled areas be forced to join their “saboteur kin" in the prohibited areas after the date of the cénsus. As previously stated, he did issue an order to deport first-degree relatives of saboteurs prior to the census. However, Al-Majid stated there was no. connection between that order and the national census. Al-Majid stated there were no parameters placed on the ages of, the "saboteur kin" or on the ages’ of the males ordered deported, including the age ranges between 12 and 50, 17 and 50, or: 15 and 70. Al-Majid characterized northern Iraq as "backward." For the census process, many translators were needed. Most residents of northern Iraq received information about the census and understood the instructions. According to Al-Majid, census takers did not travel into prohibited areas, which were under control of the Iraqi Army, and conducted their work only in cities and villages. Individuals were required to make themselves availdble to census takers in ordér.to be counted. If an individual failed to participate in the census, Al-Majid stated, ."He would be the loser." Without béing counted, such an individual would have no citizenship. and would not be allowed to send his'children to - school. However, other services, such as electricity and food from the government, were unaffected. Al-Majid stated that an individual could register for the census according to their ethnicity and religion, whether Arab, Kurd, Yezidi, Christian, Jew, etc. In northern Iraq, a person was not required to register only as an Arab or as a Kurd, and.no other ethnicity. ‘ According to Al-Majid, an individual was not deemed an army deserter simply because of failing to register for the census. He noted that most Kurds neglected their military service. . According to ari RCC decree dated 1984/85, a Kurdish individual was required to serve only three months versus the normal three years of military service. As a result, some individuals registered themselves as Kurds during the census. Al-Majid recalled that four or five families in Mosul, whom he described as Jarjaris and as Arabs, registered as Kurds. This “error” was- caught, however, and the individuals were directed to- register their true ethnicity. Al-Majid was shown and read a portion of a copy of a document written in Arabic, described as RCC decree number 10, | dated January 3, 1988, signed by Saddam Hussein, which amended RCC