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rt ‘ as i we ; ry y eee de MING: MALCOLM X; MING: Not worse, they just look worse but we had thes 10 years ago. As a natter of fact {& wrote an article in 1952 which was published, in those days I was a University Professor and writing academic journals, in which I pointed out that I was satisfied that we had a legal remedy for the segregated schools of the South, that we'd win the segregated school case involving the South but that I neither had a legal renedy : for the segregated schools of the Korth nor did any of the educators oF edvueational administratore or anybody elise seen to have any suggestions how to deal with the probles, so we had it, we had it in a very market fashion. As a matter of fact many of the problens that we bave today currently at this moment are products of the factors which were in existence in 1952 at the tine I was writing the article, the principal one being residential ségregation and the second one being the practice of assigning, because they don't have seniority rights, inexperienced teachers to schools in poor sium neighborhoods white and Negro, but more Negro than white because Negroes are poorer than white people in the North. So you can’t say we didn't have the problems, we had them, but we didn't have the solution. What victory did you get? What results? fell I can tell you one we got and perbaps the major one. We got almost back to 1868, almost but not quite. We got back to the point that we were in the period immediately following the Civil War, when it was possible publically to discuss, criticize and get affirmative governsental action aimed at preventing racial discrimination in the United States and we loat that, when I say we now I'm not talking about people our celor, I'm talking about the whole country pocause I agree with you that this is an American problem not a Negro problem. We lost it when the Hayes-Tilden Deal was made. Mow the Republicans don't like that phrase being used, they wanted it called the Hayes-Tilden Arrangement, like the Southerners wanted it call the War Between the States, but whatever you call it, the Hayes-Tilden Deal or the Rayes-Tilden Arrangenent,