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9 11 Commission Report — Part 34
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‘To: Counterterrorism From: Berlin
Re: 315N-WF-227135, 12/05/2003
Associate Judge Sakuth asked Fromm how the Al-Jazeera
journalist had been able to travel to Afghanistan and find the
Al-Qaeda leadership. . Fromm testified that it was described in the
book. The journalist initially traveled to Pakistan where he waited
for a telephone call. Thereafter, he was taken to a location where
he was able to interview Binalshibh and KSM. Fromm had not seen the
video of the interview, but he was familiar with the subsequent book.
Fromm only knew the substance of the book's statements.
Defense attorney Pinar noted that she had seen the video,
but that one could not see the faces of the interview subjects. She
asked Fromm whether he doubted the authenticity of the identities of
the interview subjects. Fromm answered that he did not doubt the 7
identities of the interview subjects. In fact he had no doubts
whatsoever regarding the authenticity of the statements made or the
identities of the subjects.
Chief Judge Rtthle asked if Fromm was basing his
conclusions on the book by the Al-Jazeera journalist. Fromm said
that it was so.
The Chief Judge informed Fromm that he was unfamiliar with
this interview, either on film or in book format. Fromm suggested
that the court obtain excerpts of the interview from the Internet.
The court then excused Fromm without requiring him to
swear an oath to this testimony.
Defense Motion to Dismiss the Indictment and Release the Defendant
Defense attorney Michael Rosenthal advised the court that
Fromm's testimony, which had been based upon carefully analyzed
information, presented conclusions fundamentally contradicting the
prosecutorial theory for the case. His testimony called into
question not only whether the planning for the September 11th attacks
had been formulated in Hamburg, but also whether such planning
existed before or after 1999. If Fromm's testimony was correct, then
the prosecution's Indictment was fundamentally flawed. Consequently,
the defense was filing a Motion to Dismiss the Indictment and Release
the Defendant from Custody.
Chief Prosecutor Hemberger argued against a dismissal of
the matter. Fromm's testimony should not mislead the court into
concluding that the prosecution's Indictment was incorrect. His
testimony was based upon conclusions which had no further bearing to
the main elements of the underlying criminal offenses.
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