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“8 FD-302 (Rev. 10-6-95) bé b7Cc zi File # 315E-HQ-14485347" JE: Date dictated 06/04/2004 ALL INFORMATION CONTAINED HEREIN IS UNCLASSIFIED DATE -2009 BY 60324 uc baw/sab/rs -t- FEDERAL BUREAU OF INVESTIGATION Date of transcription O6/04 {2004 . Sabir Abd Al Aziz Husayn Al Duri, (Black List #205), date of birth May 19, 1949, was interviewed .at a detention facility located at the Baghdad International Airport (BIAP), Baghdad, Iraq. Interviewing Agents identified themselves as representatives of the ~ United States Government from Washington, DC. Department of . Defense (DOD) répresentatives' (LNU) were D6 also present, and observed the first_thirty minutes of the 7c interview. FBI. Language Specialist|-—————Ss'(| provided Arabic/English translation. Sabir provided the following information: ; Sabir was the former Director of the Istikhbarat (Diréctorate of Military Intelligence) and former Director of the Iraqi Intelligence Services (IIS) (Mukhabarat). In 1987, during the Iraq-Iran war, the primary role of the Istikhbarat in the Northern region of Iraq was to gather intelligence on Iranian forces. The secondary role of the -Istikhbarat was to gather intelligence on the activities of the Kurds and determine their relatioriship with the Iranians. During this time frame, Sabir was a.member of the Northern Affairs Committee and advised the Chairman of the committee, was Izzat Ibrahim Al Duri. (Black List #6), Deputy Secretary General of the Revolutionary Command Council (RCC). ‘Other Directors of the Iraqi security services were members ofthe Northern Affairs Committee. . ‘The Iraqi government utilized tribal Sheikhs to. recruit. Kurdish fighters (Jahsh) in the war against Iran, and during the Anfal Campaign. The tribal Sheikhs would get paid by the- Government of Iraq (GOI) by thé number of Kurdish fighters they recruited. The Sheikhs who recruited the Kurdish fighters on ‘behalf of the Iraqi government were known as Mustashars.. Sabir believes the planning stages for the Anfal Campaign occurred between approximately 1985 and 1987. Three Corps' of the Iraqi Army were positioned in the Northern Region of Iraq at this time. The I Corps was located in Kirkuk, the II Corps was located in Diyala, and the V Corps was located in Mosul... The Corps of the Iraqi Army concentrated on the war with Iran, while the Jahsh Battalions were responsible for defending the Kurdish territory. .Each Corps had an Istikhbarat officer assigned to it. who was responsible for gathering- intelligence. The Istikhbarat officer Investigation on: 06/03/2004 at Baghdad, Iraq’ Gor ~ - This document contains neither recommendations nor conclusions of the FBI. It is the property of the FBI and is loaned to your agency; - it and its contents are not to be distributed outside your agency. SARUL 202: Tm, ab02 zoay—