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of the three hada only knives Mis time, Charlie had batt the only gun and he had long gone. Katie said when they got into the house they found the couple tied up and they took the woman into a bedroom. Katie and Leslie took her into a bedroom and tied her some more and put her on a bed and put a bag or cloth or something over her head. Then they proceeded to tell her everything was going to be OK, that she wasn't going to be hurt, it was all going to be all right. Was Talking to Herself Katie told me she knew sh2 was talking to herself not to the woman ~—just like me with Sharon Tate. She was talking to herself through the woman just to reassure herself that everything was going to be OK. That all was going to be perfect, was going to be good. Tex was in the living room with the man. She said the woman heard her man, her husband, being killed. And she said the woman panicked, starting fighting and knocked over a lamp. Fought—and screamed: "What are you doing to my husband? What are you doing to my husband?" All the time Katie was stabbing her and Leslie was trying to hold her and Katie just kept stabbing. I forget how many times Katie said she stabbed her. I don't even think she knows. Up to the time she was dead, the woman kept saying: "What are you doing to my husband?" And Katie told me that's what the woman was going to live with, the thought she's going to carry through infinity. And I said: "Yes, you're right there." Katie said after they were through they went in and wiped off all the fingerprints—at least that's what she said they did. Then they wrote helter-skelter in the people's blood on the refrigera- tor: "Death to All Pigs"—or some- thing to that effect. t in and took showers in the e's bathroom, ‘tiarpet SS. eee, their clothes, went into the refriger- ator and had something to eat, Katle said she saw a fork. I can't remember whether she said it was a kitchen fork or one of those long forks—a carving fork. She said she saw it and she flashed, who-eee—that will scare somebody. And she picked up the fork and went over and left the fork in the man's stomach. Tex, she said, carved "war" on the man's chest. When Katie told me that, I flashed and said: "Wow. Pretty far out." I thought it was pretty far out. She didn't say with what. She just said "carved." Then she said it was almost dawn and they changed from their black ereepy-crawl clothes and creepy- crawled in their change of clothes out of the house and away from it. They took their creepy -crawl clothes with them and threw them away in somebody's garbage can. Not near there but quite far away. I think Katie said they walked quite a few blocks, maybe a mile, and then they hitchhiked a ride. I remember something else now. It's a flash, a new picture in my head. Katie said there was a dog there in Katie said she saw a long fork and she flashed, who-eee —that will scare somebody. e “tne touse. She said the ust gat and watched the whole w% It couldn't have been much of a watchdog. The dog came up to them and wagged its tail and Katie reached down and patted’ its head before they left. : Katie said she had gotten the impression from the woman before they killed her that she and the man had children who would be coming over to the house the next day. She Said they would find their bodies and that would blow their minds, I never did know the names of the penis they killed until a long time ater. I didn't read about it in the paper. Or watch it on TV the next day, like I had before. I was tired of listening to the news. All I heard on the news was Tate, Tate, Tate. I just shut it off. Now, I'm exhausted again. The flashes and the pictures have stopped coming. Ys I can't tell about it any more. Anyway, I haven't’ time. My lawyer is coming soon, and he's bringing me a dish of vanilla ice c anilla ice cream really blows my mind. woes