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os Re: JOHN L. LEWIS, ET AL "Between 1932 and the time the mine closed I never knew of any difficulty between Carl Elshoff and PMA. When I first became president Elshoff and I had an understand- ing that if any cases were brot up that they would be cecided accorcing to the contract which was then in force ani Elshoff said © ~t and I never had any trouvle with Elshoff as long 2s mia Ind the cases were disposed of satisfactorily. J believe 5 ns fair. I never had any trouble with OSCAR FALCETTI then either, - : "Between 1932 and the time the mince elosed dowm there never was- any trouble or strikes or slow-Gownz the:+ at Mine 3 and shings went along ~~ very fine and nice. "Botween 1932 and the time the mine clescd I never heard Falcetti or Elshoff make any remarks tht they likoc UMY better or wanted them back. Neither did they do awruhing to my knowlea e of trying to get UMW back at that time. "T recall th a Se .. up until the mine closed that there vould be small fights and troubles especially around election tines as the men would hve too many drinks_ etc. but it had nothing to co with the coal company. There would be men who wanted to see their fricnds in as officials and noturnally they vould get to arguing about the mtters. "T said then and still say now that in any locnl union there is too much profiteering in them. In connection with local 54 they were no more racket ridden than any oth ; would seem to be run alriy.nt but there were a few such as and several _ - No ns or ben were given _ by these mer and talk the men into somet!ing one , way or another. I was very active in PMA prior to the time the mine closed and attended most of their meetings. Some of the miners felt that those PMA men convicted in the bombing cases hed an injustice to them. I never had any opinion on the matter but I knew quite a few of them personally, "Between 1932 and 1937, while I was president, there was passed a 10% levy on all miners end this was called a strike fund and wes to be used for helping miners in other locals who were not working, I don't think that all of this money went to the strike fund but went tow.rd salaries and other ex nse 3 « There was no books then and ever thing wis on a cash basis. oe meme 2 a ee oa Le Boru. oc. Be ¢ BR AN RS - ae Sb, Tn eR PR ae MR