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vw * the Senator from the President? 2062 avallable to you.” Y suggested, however, - that he dissolve the order for secrecy. Otherwise, Just getting the names would be of no benefit, J heard nothing from the President, except that I read statement at & press conference to the effect that the Senator from Wisconsin Was not telling the truth. Mr. DONNELL. Mr. President, the Senator yield further? * Mr, McCARTHY. I yield.” 20 Mr. DONNELL. When did the Sena tor send this telegram to the President Mr. McCARTHY. It was approxi Tately a week ago. Mr. DONNELL. And the Senator has received no direct response whatever from the President or from the Presi- dent's office? Mr. McCARTHY. I have received no response from the President, and no sc- xnowledgment. All I know fs that ac- cording to the newspaper account th President 1s reported to have said tha the Senater from Wisconsin was no telling the truth. Mr. DONNELL. Did the Senator in- form the President in the telegram that the 57 persons are or have been in the State Department? HO Mr. McCARTHY. I did. Mr. DONNELL. Notwithstanding the notice given to the President by a Mem- ber of the Senate a week ago by telegram, there has been no response received by Mr. McCARTHY. None whatever. Mr. DONNELL. If these persons are Communists—and we are not deciding that question at the moment—they have been allowed, so far as the Senator knows, to continue in whatever official positions they occupied during the intervening ap- proximate week. Is that correct? Mr. McCARTHY. That is correct. I might say that I read the telegram into the Recorp. I shall be glad to hand & copy of it to the Senator. Since that time the majority Jeader also joined with the President in refiecting upon the truthfulness of the junior Senator from Wisconsin. Mr. DONNELL. Mr. President, will the Benator yield? Mr. McCARTHY. I yield. Mr. DONNELL. Has the Senator al- ready placed in the Recorp a copy of the telegram which he has just handed me? ¢ Mr. McCARTHY. I heave. Mr. DONNELL. I missed that part of the Senator's address. Mr. McCARTHY. Yes, the telegram fz in the Recorp. I believe I was on case No. 34. This in- dividual was originally cleared for em- ployment in the State Department on June 2, 1946. Since that time, according to the State Department's file, he has admitted his communistic sympathies. I understand that he has resigned in order to take other Government employment. He was not discharged. ~- Case No. 36. This individual is 43 years of age. e is with the Office of Information and Education. According to the fle, he fs a Enown Communist. I might say that when I refer to some- one as being & known Communist, Tam not evaluating the Information myself. Iam merely giving what is in the file. This individual also found his way into vr CONGkuSSIONAL RECORD—SENATES the Voice of America broadcast. Appar- ently the easiest way to get In is to be a known Communist. a No. 37. This individual has been é Unite "States since 1830 and was mpl ed by the Office of Information Education on April 72, 1847. He ‘as with a Russian welfare society. This ndividual is a very close associate of a nown Co unist now also with the Voice of erica broadcast. The note says that this individual is still with the Voice of America broadcast. Case No. 38 This individual is em- a very responsible position in he Broadcasting Division of the Voice of erica. As early as December 10, 1946, mivestigation by the State Department's ecurity agency showed that this man “a8 a Tanatical Communist, that he was nticapitalistic, and definitely followed he Communist Party line. here were reports from two different vernment investigative awencies. An- r Government investigative agency adVised that a reliable informant re- ported that a well-known Communist in Newark, N. J., gave him the unqualified information that this individual was a paid-up fellow party member. While acting as & newspaper reporter prior to his present employment with the Voice | of America broadcast he was reported by @, his superiors to have colored his news >} reports with Communist theory, and did not give complete and unbiased coverage to such reports. That is important be- cause it is this individua! who is now handing out news reports on the Voice of America program. A very close friend of this individual and his brother stated that both are definitely communist. r. WITHERS. Mr. President, will the Senator yield again? Mr. McCARTHY. I yield. Mr. WITHERS. What is the gentle- ma&n’s name? Did the Senator call his name? call any name? Mr. McCARTHY. Oh, no. Mr. WITHERS. The Senator does not know who It is? Mr. McCARTHY. I have called no names. The Senator from Connecticut, I think, gave the best reason why, namely, that we should not attempt to try to con- vict a man, that that should be done by a committee. I am submitting the evi- dence without giving the names. I have avoided that in every way possible. Mr. WITHERS. Does the Senator think all the employees in the State De- partment are Communists? Mr. McCARTHY. No. I think the vest majority of those employees are being done an almost trreparable wrong by having them painted with the brush of communism. I have been a lawyer, and out of 100 lawyers there may be 99 honest lawyers and 1 shyster, 1 crook. and the 99 get a bad name. ‘That has hap- pened in the State Department. If there were not some good, honest, loyal men in the Btete Department, men whe were willing to risk their positions. I would not be able to give this report here tonight. I think the vast majority of those em- +N oer FEBRUARY 20 ployees are loyal, protecting the security of the country for the time being, and in honesty to those employees the shady characters showd be removed. Mr. WITHERS. Will the Senator per- mit another question? Mr. WITHERS. How does the Sena- -tor feel about attacking these men with- out calling names? How does the Sen- ator feel the other employees who are straightforward feel about it, when be reflects on all of them and does not call names? Mr. McCARTHY. I think the cond!- tion today is so fraught with danger, I think we are in a period so definitely close to war, thet even tf we do damage some of the honest employees, I must take the only method I know of whereby I think we can secure a house cleaning, This information is nothing new. This has been known to the Secretary of Btate, or should have been—it fs in the files—-for a iong time. I have decided that this is the best way of forcing the President to give the Congress the in- formation so that it can clean house, as he apparently ts not going to. Whether it is wrong, the Senator can decide for himself. I personally feel that this is the most effective way I can do this all-im- Portant job, and I intend to continue attempting to do it in this fashion, until the Senator cr someone else shows me that there is some more effective, fairer Way. in that connection, I might say that I am very happy that there are so many Senators on the other side of the aisle who so thoroughly disagree with the ma- jority leader, The majority leader has been condemning me rather vigorously for not giving the names of the people, I have been making every effort possible to keep the information in such form that no one can detect the names, until a full bearing of each case has been held. Mr. WITHERS. I should like to ask the Benstor what reason he has for not calling names. Does not the Senator think it would be a fine thing to let the public know who the guilty are? Is not the Benator privileged? Mr. McCARTHY. Earlier this eve- ning the Senator from Tlincis said, “You are privileged if you make a mistake, If wut of the 81 there are some innocent, if you malign them,” the Senator from I- Linois said, “you are protected.” J made the statement then that when the day comes that I ever say anything on ne _foor of the Senate which I will no ot be milling to state off the floor of the ate, on that day T will reaien f The PRESIDING OFFICER. Does the Senator from Wisconsin yield; and if so, to whom? Mr. McCARTHY. I atill yield to the Senator from Kentucky. Mr. WITHERS. WU the Senator does not call names, has he not reflected on the whole Department of State, every one of the employees? Mr. MoCARTHY. That is entirely pos- sible, I will say to the Senator. Mr. WITHERS. The Senator has the right in the Senate to call those names. bic